Jay!

I can’t believe that just happened!

…Did he seriously say “Hell’s Donkey”?! Good grief!

And too bad about that explosion as well.

Yay!! UNIT! Although, wouldn’t Bambera have retired by now?

Incidently, have you seen what UNIT are going to be called from now on? All because the real UN don’t want the BBC using their name!!!

*A MAYBE SPOILER ALERT.*

I think I’ll always be refering to UNIT as UNIT, and not UIT. How do you even say that??

*DONE* ;D

Heather: I’m seeing gravatars and not wavatars also - thought it was just me.

PS (Rich and Mreen) Leela married Commander Andred. (Days long gone - as a young lass watching “The Invasion of Time” I remember thinking he was rather cute.)

No! Not 4!

Welcome back to the land of make believe Rich!

Jay: Earth, apparently.

Sean: Yeah, that’s my little tribute to Doug Adams who was script editor for part of Tom Baker’s era and often encorporated bits of his Hitchhiker’s stuff in the scripts. It was supposed to read “Hell’s Donkeys”, but I forgot the S when I typed the text. Sorry.
As for my personal life, I’m managing it, thanks.

Dave: Why should Bambera have retired? She’d only be in her 50s by now, no? How old do you think she was in “Battlefield?” I guessed mid-to-late 30s. That was in 1986/87 thereabouts (Depending on when the story is actually set), the Earth in the comic is set in 2006, so add 20 years or so… She might be close to retirement by this point. But I don’t know much about the British military. Maybe someone can find out how feasable this is for me? (So I can find out if I have to fudge or make excuses for her presence)
Argh! UN. It’s a compliment and free publicity!

Matthew Rimmer: YAY! Thanks for joining us and I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

Kelly: Not wrong at all! That’s what science fiction is all about. What If….???

Rob H: I like buildling suspence. Life’s good,no complaints,thanks.

Who Ate The TARDIS: Nice heheheh. Welcome to the gang! I’ll try to get more out soon.

Wulfae: I wish I could put the cliffhanger episode screem into the comic for situations like this. BNEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR…. As for that new name. Awful.

Heather: Weee shall seeeee…though there is a clue. As for the Wavatars, yeah, something funky’s going on with those. They’ve been coming and going lately.

Isi: Not 10? Don’t you mean 4? Though, I suppose if the 4th Doctor bites it, the 10th will suffere eventually.

Sinead: GOOD CATCH! I did that deliberately because of Time Crash. That’s right! Andred! Thank you!

Dr.Bunsen: Thanks! I’m rather fond of those two myself. Kinda like the last panel too with the damaged Dalek ship in the foreground.

Cap’n Shadey: Thanks Cap!

Joe England: Tune in next issue….

COSMIC ANGST!! squeeeeeeeeee!!

Need to know what happens next!! =)

Dear Lord, dont let it be a long time before the next comic

Oh, and by the way, UNIT is now going to stand for the UNified Intelligence Taskforce

This reminds me of those Interference novels. Are we going to get the Faction Paradox involved now?

I think I recall Benn Aaronovitch (who wrote the episode) saying once that ‘Battlefield’ was meant to be set in 1997 (although this has yet to be confirmed anywhere onscreen, and how it ties in with us still having a Queen, I don’t know. It could just have been Lethbridge-Stewart making an off-hand comment rather than actually implying that Britain had a King!). What I do know, though, is that Bambera had to be over 40 because in the British military, you must be at least that old to be a Colonel (the rank below Brigadier). However, if ‘Battlefield’ is set in 1997, then you are right, and Bambera would still be below retirmement age - though probably in need of a well deserved promotion!

I wasn’t meaning to pick holes in your comic - I was just thinking out loud!

Can’t wait for the next instalment!

No! 4! What will happen to Tom?? Cosmic angst makes that scary!

and “Hell’s Donkey?” tho, yes, you already answered that with the Hitchhiker’s ref.

Mentally you’re playing the end theme for a cliff hanger?
I hope the new page is coming soon! - but now I’m worried about that, lol !

This is not so much a comic blog as an addiction, I need to know what has happened!

Can you tell I check back several times a day for a new page?

Ten looks really, really young in his last panel. Wow.

Though if you’re far enough in the future to have seen this comic compleated. Could you post the remaining pages, so your younger you doesn’t have too? That might free up enough of his time, that he’ll be able to get those plans from you.

I bow before your courage Rich.

If Four isn’t safe then nobody is, so Ten is absolutely right.

And Yay for UNIT!!!

*Still doing a maybe spoiler thing.*

I like it still being UNIT, with UNited instead of stupid UIT.

…Though, to be fair, some random Dalek DID warn to brace for impact. The Doctor just didn’t listen, and now look what’s happened!

As for my earlier comments: Unit Dating, just don’t do it. Neither kind.

Still, the Brig — the original — has to be in here somewhere, n’est pas? I’m sure Rich has something, er, rich in mind….

B — no, 2: Now I’m wondering just what Nine’s been up to all this time. Which I’m sure is exactly how Rich planned it.

3, or C: I never thought Battlefield took place that far ahead of the time when it aired. I knew it was near future, I figured that meant early 90s or so. Remember Lethbridge-Stewart’s apparent age. He’s retired, not ancient.

4, or D, or that little [iv] they use in footnotes: I wonder if the Renegade Daleks will notice that something’s wrong with the Keeper.

I seriously hope that Four somehow survives the blast as I am not in favor of seeing a premature regeneration considering the havoc it would do to the Doctor’s existence and personally I do view it as wrong wanting to see an earlier incarnation die when they’re not supposed to regardless of how interesting and entertaining it maybe.

About the UNIT issue, I find it rather silly and bizarre that the United Nations would make such a fuss about a television series. If anything, the BBC should disregard the UN’s whining and continue to refer to UNIT as UNIT. There are much more important things the United Nations should focus on other than a TV series and it damn well knows it. By tampering with UNIT’s name, you’re messing the organization’s history as shown in Doctor Who and frankly, I don’t see any other name sounding as good as “United Nations Intelligence Taskforce”. As mentioned, the name “UNIT” is complement and free publicity, so why tamper with it and considering the fact that the UN didn’t make a fuss about UNIT’s name back in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s, why the hell should it bother now.

Considering the expressions on the faces of Two and Three, I wonder what they’re going to make to make of Four’s predicament and it’s aftereffects, though Two seems to be a bit more aware that something has happened than Three. I wonder if One will eventually find out what has happened with Four and what will his reaction be.

Between reading page 83 and the comments, I almost forgot I had something in the oven. Let’s just say the pizza crust is extra crispy, ok?

Apropos the cliffhanger episode scream - BNEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR, I could hear it too! Kinda neat!

What’s the UN gonna do if the show doesn’t listen anyway? Sue the BBC? I’d like to see that.

As for the Update? I’m happy to see it, I was going to comment first thing after I saw it but I had to get ready for work. I’m home now and after seeing all the comments I thought I might say something. I also noticed the looks on Tow and Three’s faces. I do hope Four is ok and I would also love to see the Brig (the original) and UNIT. As for UIT? That is just stupid! My dad says since it was already in the show they can’t just change it.

I do check this thing several times a day, the one day I didn’t I missed the update and that was the day before my birthday (last month). I have a lot of free time most days so all I really do is sit at my computer or play Video games. Now that I have a computer that has OS X I can check this without waiting for others to get off the good computers.

and here we have it, if the forth doctor should die, then everyone after him, will wind up where the last one was, and ten won’t be on galifrey anymore, he’ll be in a car tardis wondering why he’s holding a welding torch

to clafify, five will end up in a mess inside a dalek ship
six will find himself with the master a conglomeration of other aliens
seven will be wondering why he’s on a dalek ship
eight will be holding a deadly vial and wondering where leela has gone
nine will probably get attacked by leela
and ten will end up in a sweet convertable tardis.

gosh that made me feel better

Hell’s Donkeys!!! Hehe, love the Zaphod quote!

I have to say, I much preferred her as the female Dave Lister than as Bambera.

And I didn’t say so earlier, but I’d like to add my voice to those who’ve complimented you on panel 2 in particular. That’s a really good rendering of 4. The string of 5 through 10 was nothing short of inspired, too. Especially with 3 in the background looking totally unperturbed, and 2 wondering what the heck’s up with 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ii1T1415M

Can’t wait for the next installment.

Can.

Not.

Wait.

Was my frisit comment on the ne panel.and has nothing to do with Earth like was mentioned i a little bit later post comment.

But ws something the 8th Doctpr said at the end of that 1996 telemovie when he knew he had to go on and move on to his next phase of hsi new 8th doctor regenration which he did somewhat strangly as seen in further adventures of the 8th doctors own time line. But!

Jay!

Meanwhile I got a friend to visit this comic too so you have a new reader too

The BBC can still use the UNIT acronym, but they cannot use the name United Nations anymore - Russel T Davies announced this in a few publications (like Doctor Who Monthly magazine and SFX). That’s why they have only been called UNIT, and not their full name, in Torchwood and Doctor Who recently (the last time their full name was used was by the Ninth Doctor in ‘Aliens of London’. Hence they have changed the name to UNified Intelligence Taskforce - doesn’t have the same snazzy ring to it if you ask me!

I agree with you, however - UNIT were far more effective than the real UN has ever been!!!

Hope the scarf’s OK. ‘Cause if you mess with the scarf, the Doctor will kick your ar– you get the picture

Just because we haven’t said anything about them, doesn’t mean we’re sitting here oblivious to the nuances.

Let’s kill off Seven then…

The only niggle I’d have with ‘killing off’ the Fourth Doctor, is that, despite how interesting it could be to see that play out, I’d be very surprised if it didn’t lead to a dissatisfying ‘reversal of time’ at some point, where the ‘death’ and repercussions would be undone….

Wouldn’t it?

You just can not kill of nay of the doctor’
s with out the rest be affected .

And then stiking back and reversing naything ha;;ening to any ogf them out of time and or not.

The doctors are all one and the same linked by there own symbiontic sleves jsut as the Doctors are linke to the tardis in this very same fashion do naything to any one of them and it would have very serious consequences to the rest and they wil take care of what ever is needed to cover and or correct this.

After all the Doctors have gone into N space out side of tiem and space itself and into paraelle dimesions et all.

So to think you might kill one without the others doing some about it is kind of very foolish thinking.

And this stuff about timey wimey wibbley wobbly has only been use just maybe two times in all of th history of the show so it is not something the Doctor’s take very lightly as is being used on here lately.

Jay!

Ladies and gentlemen, my moment of geek.

I think that eventually time would start to come apart if one of the Doctors died. It might take a while to happen, since they are out of time, but something that serious would have to have some sort of consequences beyond just one Time Lord.

1. Rose goes back in time to the day when her father dies
2. Rose saves her dad,
which means
3. (this is a guess) judging by what happened in Rise Of The Cybermen’s parrallel universe when Pete was alive, Pete would end up like that Pete (though if Lumic* didn’t exist it might not be but anyway) rich (not this rich).
4. Pete and Jackie would be living in a mansion, nowhere nere the Powell Estate
5. Rose, if she’d even been born, would not be working in Henriks
6. Rose wouldn’t have been caught up in the Auton Invasion
7. Rose wouldn’t have met the Doctor
8. Rose wouldn’t have gone back in time
9. She couldn’t (and wouldn’t have needed to) save Pete, who would have then died
10. Tyler’s wouldn’t become rich and would be the way they were when we met them.
so…
11. Rose would have been working at Henriks so she would have met the Doctor in the Auton Invasion
12. Back to stage one

*I wonder if he was based on Davros, they’re actually quite similar.

So i do awit to see the point here about all of this.

Please fill it in for me so i can get what this is all about.

Jay!

Karanadon: I’m working on it, I’m working on it.

John Jackson: I’ll try!

Lennie: He’s a bit prone to almost dying. It’s a Doctor thing.

Jess: *Grins* That’s a little high for praise. But I’ll take it.

Laura: That’s what cliffhangers are all about!

Spiral: Thanks!

Chris: Interferance? Faction Paradox? I’m afraid you’ve lost me.
Yeah, as for the whole King/Queen UNIT dates thing… I wouldn’t give it too much credence. It’s like trying to justify Space:1999 actually taking place in 1999. Some facts you’ve just got to ignore. Like references to a King in the 80’s episodes. Put it too far foreward based on that and you’ve got 80’s fashions and technology being used in the mid 21st century.

Dave: No, it’s okay, comments like yours are very helpful to me. Thanks for that information I didn’t have before. And don’t worry about picking holes in the comic… it’s not airtight by ANY stretch of the imagination. I’m trying to weave a story together through disparate and non-linear episodes written DECADES apart that don’t actually work together. So there’s bound to be some rough spots that we can’t all agree on. Carry on!

Mreen: Hee… Soon as I can!

Gallifrey: You can tell me. I’m sorry I can’t update more than I do. If I had my way there’d be at least one page up every morning. But the way things are going these days, it simply cannot be.

Fizzix: Hmm… nope. Can’t do it. Yeah, the proportions make my 10th Doctor look like a teenager. Oops.

Rich/Hitbob: Yeah. Okay. Look, if you really WERE me in the future I’d have done something clever. Like visit me at work or communicate with me over the phone or something. Not dropped barely readable comments on a Doctor Who comic blog. I just have to assume you’re an imposter of some kind. A kameleon robot or a Dalek duplicate or some teenage Doctor Who geek. We’re onto you, Bob. Jokes over.

Cap’n S: Hehehe, nice try, Shade.

Herk: I did. I figure if you’re going to threaten one of them, it’d better be THAT one.

wulfae: *whistles innocently* I think we can still use UNIT. Though it might be better spelled UnIT.

The Cap: Or an owl with a lisp.

Turnip: Yup. Poor dope.

Sean: Good point.

Jonathan: Good catch.

Gnome: Maaaaaayyybe.

JustAWanderer: 1-YAY! B2-Exactly
3C-Also true! But remember, this is nearly 10 years after that! 4D[iv]-Well, one of them was looking at him suspiciously. You might have had trouble seeing the subtlety of his expression, but the eyestalk was cocked at a very particular angle that conveys curiosity and concern.

Lady Tweed: Yeah, Bill’s been reading the comic. He says I don’t make the 4th Doctor arrogant enough. But the 10th is sufficiently clueless.

Kevin Stroik: Man, I’m glad I’m writing this comic and not you. You disapprove of anything outside the box.

Melanie: Ulp. Hope your pizza was okay. Sorry!

Maureen MacDonald: The police tried that with the Police Box. They lost. Looks like the BBC have relented to the UNs demands though, so that’s a legal battle we’ll probably never see.

Sailorgreeny: Yeah, something funky’s gone on with the Gravatars.
Hope you had a great birthday!

Gecks: *scratches head* That’s a bit linear, but funny.

DrkFire666: Thanks! Hee

Heather: Yeah, I wasn’t TOO thrilled with the Bambera character myself (”Ohh SHAAAAME” got old REAL quick). But y’know, she’s part of the story now.

Aynisha: YAY! THanks!

Vroom Socko: Welcome! Great name, btw.
Hehehe, nice clifhanger closing theme. Thanks. I’ll keep going as soon as I can.

spookette: *blush* Thanks!

Jay: …. oh.

Jeremy: Thank you!

Mr.Scirev: We’ll have to see. Yay! Thanks for spreading the love.

hmc: You’d think, eh? Some people are just too proprietary.

Dave: Yeah, probably better just to drop the explanation for the time being. Could always come up with a new name if they had to.
The Unfettered Nerds Intelligence Taskforce. Or the Unabashed Nationalists Intelligence Taskforce… or maybe something serious.

Barima: Heheheh… okay, if nothing else survives, the scarf will be okay. Though he obviously has a few replacements in the TARDIS. Romana found one. And there’s the red one that the 5th Doctor unpicked in Castrovalva….

George: TENterhooks?

Rob: Don’t like the 7th Doctor?

Gnome: Maybe. Unless you’re an EXCEPTIONAL storyteller. I’d be willing to give it a go. But whether this comic is the place for that you’ll just have to wait and see.

Renegade Dalek: Hmm… thing is time is fluid (as was stated way back before the wibbly wobbly line became popular) and has a tendancy to reshape and reform. Things would change, I doubt the death of one Time Lord, even an important one like the Doctor, would cause everything to unravel. Just change. A LOT.

Thomas: There’s that too.

Jay: That’s the whole point of the wibbly wobbly stuff comment. Time isn’t linear like we keep thinking. Cause and effect behave differently then we expect. It’s all in the storytelling.

DrkFire666: Nicely geeked. Thank you.

wulfae: I think, as I stated earlier, that a lot of things might change. For the better for some, worse for others. More worse than better since the Doctor is meant to be such a powerful force for good. But the universe wouldn’t fall apart or cease to be, at least not because the Doctor suddenly changed. If it did it would be because of the temporal instability created by altering something important.
Okay, so maybe it might fall apart because the Doctor had once saved it from doing so and suddenly can’t. But that’s a secondary effect, not a direct cause.

Renegade Dalek: That’s the Grandfather Paradox in a nutshell and is often used either to explain why the universe will collapse with too much intervention, or demonstrates the fluidity of time (now referred to as the wibbly wobbly timey-wimey stuff.)
As for Lumic, probably not based on Davros, but similar because the Cybermen were created when humans, obsessed with replacing and improving imperfect body parts, lost their focus. This man embodies it in a single being and what better way then a paralyzed, dying man wanting to be whole again? I think it’s more coincidence. After all, there have been several “Davros-like” villains and characters throughout SF simply because he’s in a wheelchair. Like the accountant guy in Doctor Who’s “The Sunmakers”, or Star Trek’s Captain Pike in “The Menagerie” or Doctor Strangelove…

Lennie: Sorry. I was much saddened when I watched the end of “Logopolis” for much the same reason. *hands him a Kleenex*
So the 9th Doctor SLAPS the 10th? Seems a bit… girly… don’t you think?

NIkki: Yeah! That’s why it’s so poignant!

Jay: No, you’ve got to wait and read like everyone else.

Jay!

~Levanta

Rich, I’m glad you’re writing this comic not me and much prefer that as I don’t do much drawing and this would be too complicated of a project for me to do anyway. Also, it’s not that I disapprove anything outside the box it just that there’s so little that I view as worth doing outside the box and that I agree with. Sure, I’ll admit that there have been several “Davros-like” characters in SF but I strongly disagree that it’s more coincidence with Lumic’s strong similarities to Davros. I strongly doubt that the writer of that two-part story could claim he wasn’t aware of Davros and I see more similarities than differences, so it seems a little blatant to me, but you’re free to disagree about it.

Graeme: Thanks!

Levanta T.: That happens from time to time. What with laser swords cutting through it and it gettng all muddy all the time….

Renegade Dalek: It’s part of his new whimzical nature. You’d never hear the 1st Doctor putting it that way.

Mreen: Hehehe.. We sometimes forget that he’s the same person in all his forms.

Jim: Um, no not quite. The 4th Doctor in this comic has already experienced everything up to Romana 2 and K9 2. That means if he died here that Sarah Jane’s Harry’s Leela’s, K9 1 and Romana 1’s travels wouldn’t be effected at all. Adric onward would have to alter somehow.
The companions probably wouldn’t feel the effect of the time line change…. well Romana might because she’s time sensative as we saw in “City of Death”, but otherwise… *shrug* They’d just ignorantly shunt onto their new timelines.

Kevin Stroik: It’s these little daring experiments that lead to new and interesting things. If it weren’t for that the Doctor would be a guy in a silver space suit flying a rocket ship to Mars.

What things you find interesting Rich another person may not necessarily find interesting, so it’s very much in the eye of the beholder whether you like that fact or not. I very much apprechiate and highly thankful for what Sydney Newman, Verity Lambert, and the others who launched Doctor Who in 1963 came up with and the creativity they showed in doing it. As brilliant and revolutionary the conception of regeneration was back in 1966, I highly doubt that the people who helped create the magic of that 1st regeneration ever envisioned gender-change being involved later on and apart from Tom Baker, silence on the idea. Point is, however daring these little experiments maybe, they can sometimes backfire with damaging results negating your “new and interesting things” bit.

In other news, I really wish they’d air reruns better. I mean, sometimes they have all season 3, and others they have none of that season. But they never seem to want to play season ends or beginnings, which are the most important. Grrbob.

That’s not going to hapen with out serious disruptions form the otehr Doctors.

And just what ever did give you the everloving idea that a female doctor could not just maybe save the day at just about the last minute..
Think ye that females are still imcomportant.

And incapable of doing something very clever to rescue al of the other Doctors me thinks you should just maybe wake up to 21st cetury thinking ablut females they are not as weak as you just might think they are.

Not going to give it away to very much here but I would have a and or the female doctor find a way to put a stop to all of the Male doctors mistakes and do not persuppose that the male doctors do not make mistakes.

I belive a female doctor can be just as lcever as the male doctors given the chance.

Anyway! perhaps we will yet see.

Jay!

Jay, it’s not that females are incompetent, incapable of being very clever, or inherently weak, but it’s just that I don’t think a far-fetched notion of a female doctor is needed for a female to rescue all of the 10 known Doctors. I don’t see why wouldn’t it be possible for a female in the form of an assistant or a Time Lord that’s a female from the start such as Susan to rescue all of the 10 recognized Doctors. I think there were instances in the original series where Romana was pretty courageous and was capable of saving the Doctor if needed.

I do agree with you that it’s basic impossibility for there not to be serious disruptions from the other Doctors if one of them would die prematurely such as the 4th Doctor. Logically it makes sense that Doctors closer such as 5th would feel the effects more than those on the other end of the line, such as the 10th. I didn’t surprise me that Doctors 5-7 would feel intens