November 20th, 2007
The 10 Doctors: Page 65
Ace & Rose recover from their near miss and discuss moving on options.
Meanwhile the Daleks deliver their ultimatum to the Cybermen. The 7th Doctor and Davros look on.
Ace & Rose recover from their near miss and discuss moving on options.
Meanwhile the Daleks deliver their ultimatum to the Cybermen. The 7th Doctor and Davros look on.
November 20th, 2007 at 8:50 am
This strip is really impressing the heck out of me. When it’s all done, maybe you could sell it to a publisher and get it printed as an official Who book. I’d suggest putting out some feelers with the “Doctor Who” licensing people, because this story is really a cut above 99 percent of the fan comics I’ve seen.
November 20th, 2007 at 8:52 am
(To be clear, I meant that when it’s all done you could clean it up and ink it and color it and so on, THEN try to find a publisher! I like the sketchy look, but I don’t think the people who publish Doctor Who comics would go for it unless it was cleaned up a bit.)
November 20th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Amusing as I find the trash-talk scene from “Doomsday”, your version has the advantage of being in-character for the critters involved.
(Here since Friday when CraigOxbrow posted a link from his LJ. You, sir, rock the hizouse and all hizouse-like structures within rocking range.)
November 20th, 2007 at 10:19 am
I knew it! I knew Davros would be making an appearance sooner or later! Also, great homage to Army of Ghosts/Doomsday, Rich. Superb work as always.
You know, I know that Dr. Who prefers Sci-Fi over fantasy, but I’ve had an idea for a Dr. Who storyline where the Doctor, in between his 7th and 8th regenerations, finds himself in the afterlife. He doesn’t have a pleasant time, though, as some of his worst foes (Davros, Suketh, Lady Peniforte, ect.) try to drag him into Hell with them. The struggle to preserve his soul could account for the difficulties encountered as he shifts to his eighth form. It’s just an idea I had, what do the rest of you think?
November 20th, 2007 at 10:50 am
Yay, AoG/DD reference. Yay, better portrayal. (Is it just me, or is it just my inexperience with this particular set of Cybermen, but are they perpetually pouting? They look so sad. [ZOMG, Marvin? It’s a clone army of Marvin without his depression!])
And are the Daleks taking a cue from the Borg?
Great comic, but I’m sorry I haven’t reviewed in a while. You do, however, have a dedicated thread over on Sci-fi Forums (If I could figure if it’s HTML here, I’d give you a proper link. It’s HTML, right?)
November 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Actually the Borg took their cues from the Daleks and Cybermen, but thanks for playing, here’s a copy of the Home Game.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
You’re probably gonna hate me for this Rich, but something about your style reminds me of the old Tim Quinn and Dicky Howett cartoons in the Dr. Who magazine from some years ago.
Not that that’s a bad thing, the Qunn/Howett cartoons were a total hoot, and I’m loving this story. Keep it up my friend.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Well, gee, THAT conversation sounds familiar.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
FINALLY! I was wondering when Davros was getting his disembodied head into this comic. And is that a “Doomsday” reference I spy?
November 20th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
I had a cool overlapping storyline going for some of our RPG stuff where the Borg were actually cybermen who had jumped off of Mondas during it’s distant swing through the galaxy before it came back to Earth.
Hey Gothfae:
Not sure which style the Tim Quinn/Dicky Howetts are, but as long as it didn’t suck, I dont’ mind the comparison. I’d like to think that my art was inspired by the old genii from the Warner Bros cartoons, but I think the reality is that I read too many Archie Comics.
Lisa and Nick: Doomsday? Umm…. heh… erm… Yeah, I guess *blush*
My idea was to show how the pre-war Imperial Daleks and Mondasian Cybermen were essentially the same as those from Doomsday in some ways, different in others. So I had a similar conversation but truncated so it wouldn’t be too unweildy.
When I watched that sequence, I was at the edge of my seat, eyes were bugged and glued, and the little geek in my heart had tears of pure joy trickling down his cheeks.
I ignored the little wierdnesses… like sarcastic Daleks… because it didn’t matter. These two universal giants were finally clashing before our eyes!
November 20th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
The Daleks in Doomsday may have been sarcastic, but one has to remember that they were built up from human DNA, had nearly religious beliefs concerning their Emperor, and also had *names*. They weren’t your average Daleks.
November 20th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Actually, I’m pretty sure the Doomsday Daleks were unassociated with the Badwolf Daleks. They were a contingency plan of the pre-war Daleks. All the human/dalek hybrids from Badwolf/Crossing of the Ways were wiped out by Time Vortex Rose.
However, they did have Names and did have a more creative view point then your average Dalek soldier to make them more individualistic.
Also this comic rules, though I know nothing about Davros, I’m learning a lot about Who backstory reading this.
“Is it just me, or is it just my inexperience with this particular set of Cybermen, but are they perpetually pouting? They look so sad.”
It looks more like they’re all sporing big bushy 70s mustaches to me. But that just makes them cooler!
November 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Ah, having taken a look back on it, the thing that got me confused was Rose mentioning to them how she vaporized the Emperor. That connected them with the Bad Wolf groupies in my mind afterward.
Still, yes, different outlook for those Daleks in particular, so them relatively bursting with personality isn’t really out of place.
November 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Actually, the new series Daleks are also differant from the old series, by the fact that they’ve been majorly upgraded due to the Time War.
Temoral circuts, the ability to regenerate using a DNA sample from a time traveler (just a touch with do), shields, full articlation, flying (Hovering up stairs was shown in the old series, but not outright flying. They needed repulsorcraft for that), etc.
War has in interesting effect on technological growth. And after they “accuired” time travel, and decided to take ove the universe (including Gallifrey this time), spuring on the “Last Great Time War”. They had to improve, an adapt….
Thuse came the tech upgrades, as well as the Cult of Skaro, a Dalek Emperor that was willing to use non Kaled DNA to keep his troops going, etc.
And don’t forget that during the DNA touch regeneration bit, some elements of the time traveler is absorbed into the Dalek. Which is why the lone Dalek in the 9th Doctor episode “Dalek” Went all soft and blubbery (Rose touched it). And the sarcastic Dalek was touched by Mickey.
Oh…Almost forgot…Kewl comic, keep up the good work….And MORE NYSSA!!!
November 20th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Brilliant as always!
Rose and Ace bonding should be interesting to see. Heh.
November 20th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Rose and Ace bonding….hmmm…..that is rather improbable. Rich, yuo draw McCoy so well! *coughs* sorry, just needed to say that.
November 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Yay! I loves it!
Never mind about the Doomsday reference… was that a Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy reference? ‘Resistance is futile!’ Or maybe thats just me and my obsession… keep it up anyway!
November 20th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Hitchikers was “resistance is useLESS!” if I recall correctly. “Resistance is futile” would be the Borg.
November 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Ah yes… I feel foolish now
November 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
The Daleks in “Doomsday” weren’t Badwolf Daleks, but they were from the Cult of Skarro, so they had…imagination…of a sort?
Ugh, I’ve been in the wrong fandoms too long when “Our technology is compatible” brings new and distressing exchanges to mind.
Alright, a Doctor!
November 20th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
“Our technology is compatible” brings new and distressing exchanges to mind.”
Oh god. I just know there’s probably Cyberman/Dalek slash fic out there somewhere. DAMN YOU RULE 34!
November 20th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
During Doomsday, the Cybermen had no idea who the Daleks were, so they literally bit off far more than they could upgrade. Here, they were fully aware they were screwed. I rather like the how you touched on the conversation but made it very “classic” Who-like.
So… Davros lives. I can’t say I’m surprised. But this is perfect. He’s never met Two before, the younger Doctor can slip under his radar and cause som havoc for the Imperial Daleks.
Did I mention how I love the interlacing stories? Like a well-made rug, it’s a tangled mess underneath, but they all flow together nicely on top. I think I mentioned it. But it bears repeating. Keep up the good work.
November 20th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Ohhhh, of course it’s Davros, where would the Daleks be without him? And I take it he’s still Emperor, at least for this set of Daleks.
And I agree w/Fizzix. The 80’s Cybermen were very “pouty.” The new series look is way cooler, much more threatening.
November 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
That Davros lives isn’t really much of a stretch. The last time we saw him he was jumping out of his ship in a lifepod just before it got blown up.
Thank you so much, Inutaisho! There really is a complete story going on here, it’s crazy and hard to keep track of, but it’s a story! Thanks for seeing that.
November 21st, 2007 at 12:54 am
As the ninth Doctor would say “FANTASTIC!”
November 21st, 2007 at 1:28 am
So escaping from his ship made Davros shrink a bit, eh? Interesting what escape pods will do to a…er…”man”.
The darker side of McCoy seems to be emerging.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:16 am
It’s almost like a season of the new series. Every episode has little things that slowly start to add up for a bit dramatic finish.
It wouldn’t be a stretch if Davros had been dipped in acid and blasted into ashes. Bad guys always come back.
November 25th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
“And the sarcastic Dalek was touched by Mickey.”
He touched & primed the Genesis Ark.
Excellent work all round.
Verity Lambert RIP 1935 - 2007 died on the eve of the 44th Anniversary of the first showing of An Unearthly Child, without her I don’t think any of us would be watching The Doctor today.
March 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
That cyberman sounds just like Spock. I swear.
~Levanta/Rose
March 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I’m such a Trekkie, but why does that Dalek sound Borg-like? Let’s assimilate them into the Borg. Lovely Borg-pets:)
~Levanta
March 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
The Daleks would make instant hash out of the borg.
They’re less impressive than the Cybermen.
That being said, I came up with a cool multi-universe explanation about how the Borg were offshoots of the original Mondasian Cybermen.