October 11th, 2007
The 10 Doctors: page 49
The 2nd and 7th Doctors have been captured by the white, “Imperial” Daleks, and when the 2nd Doctor tries to flee back into the TARDIS, he gets immobilized.
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October 11th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Holy [expletive deleted]!!!
Long time lurker, first time poster, love the art, but m’gods!
October 11th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
I-MMO-BI-LIZE!
I-MMO-BI-LIZE!
I-MMO-BI-LIZE!
. . . doesn’t have quite the same ring.
PS, been lovin’ the comic since I first found it a good while back. Good work!
October 11th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Hmm… it should really be illustrated, I guess, what advantages the older Doctors may have in situations like these, being vastly more experienced in their travels. The Second Doctor probably never even heard of “imperial” Daleks… at least, not as things stood originally.
October 11th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Wonderful, Rich! Keep up the good work! I check this thing every day! I
October 11th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
White Imperial Daleks?…Emperor?…That means….
…DAVROS!!!!!!
October 11th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Oh my god…
That did NOT just happen!!
Exciting! Please continue!
October 11th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
I’m not worried! I’m sure this is all going according to the 7th Doctor’s plan!
October 11th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
By the way, are these same Daleks that 4, 6 and 9 encountered?
October 11th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
I can’t answer that here.
Sorry.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
heh, knowing you he’s probably going to regenerate into Cushing
Man this is still going great, a lot of plates in the air but nothing feels neglected and it’s all spinning away perfectly balanced, and at the same time managing to tell a great story while working in all the continuity, it’s quite an impressive bit of work, and that’s an understatement.
I believe it was Season 6b you were thinking of (as opposed to 6a), though I could never understand why it’s considered fanon, it’s clearly on screen in The Two Doctors, since he’s working for the Time Lords, and prior to The War Games he was running from the Time Lords and Jaimie hadn’t heard of them, and in the five Doctors he even specifically references the events at the end of the War Games placing him after it. It simply can’t be, with what is shown on screen, before that, so it has to be after War games but before he regenerates. The specifics of the CIA stuff that Paul Cornell came up with is theory, but the basic idea is just what was on the screen.
Anyway keep up the great work, very much enjoying it.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
@_@
[Rodney McKay] “That did NOT just happen!” [/Rodney McKay]
October 11th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
-40e5ortjhkw4rthj YOU SHOT TWO. That was cruel, ’cause I thought he was Seven due to wearing that hat T_T
October 11th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
-though I could never understand why it’s considered fanon, it’s clearly on screen in The Two Doctors, -
Well because there was no actual season 6b, the concept of one was fabricated to explain the problems with his appearances in the subsequent episodes. The truth is, no one thought to question it when they were broadcast because it had been over 14 years or more since anyone had actually seen any of Patrick Troughton’s episodes. It’s the coolest explanation and due to some nifty coincidences (the Tribune actors played pro-intervention Time Lords in other episodes) but there are other possibilities.
Some as simple as: When the Doctor is lifted out of his time stream, he remembers everything the current Doctor does. Or that he is lifted out of specific times in his history to do work for the Time Lords and then his memory erased, from points before “The War Games”.
I happen to think season 6b (or whatever it’s called) is a really COOL idea.
Rather like in New Star Trek, that wet, greasy turd that slid up the sleeve of science fiction. Minimal research and beligeranced caused the creators of “The Next Generation” to invent an entire show of continuity problems that threw TOS fans for a total loop. Among them:
a)Why is it that all of Starfleet now wears the Enterprise insignia instead of just the Enterprise crew? (okay, I grudgingly admit that this is a problem created during the movies…)
b)Everyone knows the redshirts die first. WHY THE HELL IS THE CAPTAIN IN RED???
c)Why do the Klingons now have bumpy heads? (Again, for the movies)
d)Why do the Romulans now have bumpy foreheads???
And others.
Now, the REAL reason for all of these was: ‘Cause. Why the insignia change? ‘Cause (or, for the sensative producer: “You mean they DIDN’T all wear the arrowhead insignia before?”). Why the colour change? ‘Cause. (or “Oh, did we get the colours wrong? Whatever.”). Why the Klingons’ new look? ‘Cause it’s cooler (agreed!) why the Romulans’ new look? ‘Cause it worked for the Klingons.
So the fans have had FIELD days trying to cope with the changes making up backstory for everything. And it looks like the TV shows proove their backstories. Even get everyone else believing that say: Starfleet decided that the Enterprise was so wonderful, they should adopt its insignia for the entire fleet (oh brother). Or that there’s two (or more) RACES of Klingon and we’ve only seen one of them until TMP (or the one I like, the old Klingons were early experiments in genetic engineering). Or that there’s two races of Romulan (one of Romulus and one on Remus, one of which has bumpy heads).
And it works.
Until the TV show(s) decide to explain it. Which ‘canonizes’ their own story and flushes the fanon down the toilet. Even if it sucks BIIIG TIME! Thus: The Klingons suffered a disease that made their bumps fall off! ARgh. And once they showed the Remus aliens in “Nemesis”, that blew the fanon Romulan bumpy heads out of the sky.
So far, thankfully, nobody’s tried to explain why the 2nd Doctor’s appearances are so contradictory to the show. And until they DO, we can assume our favorite theory.
October 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Rassilon’s Ghost! Jumping Jehosophat!, immobolized, while wearing a hat!, never had time to tip to the crew *heh heh*
love the little inverse effect, when two gets shot at, nice touch!
October 11th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
*pokes* Nyah….
October 11th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Lisa, you no likey?
October 11th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
*stares at panel 6 with mouth agape* So here I am looking immensely forward to an update, all the while thinking what could possibly happen next, and…the 2nd Doctor gets zapped! By a Dalek!
You bloody genius! Cue the cliffhanger sting!
October 11th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
-You bloody genius!-
Oh go on! *bluuuush*
-Cue the cliffhanger sting!-
Or, as we used to say when running the FASA Doctor Who RPG:
“BNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR diddly dum diddly dum….”
Speaking of the FASA RPG, we played it for years and years. When I started this comic I considered using our RPG characters instead of the ones from the show, but thought nobody would read it since nobody knew who the characters would be. Then I thought about bringing some of our characters in to work alongside the Doctors, but then changed my mind and decided to make it only TV show characters and situations. No mary-sues here.
Maybe I’ll use them in a future comic. But again, I doubt anyone would bother to read it. Then again, maybe they would. *shrug* I’ve got so many stories we created for it…..
October 11th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
I know there was never actually a season 6b, but that’s the label applied to the concept of the 2nd Doctor’s later appearances being post-War Games/pre-Regeneration, which I wouldn’t call a theory since it appears, to me at least, to be pretty clearly what was shown on the screen and since I don’t think there’s anything contradictory about his later appearances that needs to be explained anyway, at least not contradictory of anything we directly saw (So I guess I am saying there was a season 6b just not a literal one on our screens at the time obviously
). I don’t think fabricated is quite right, since whether it was intended or not, it’s what has already ended up on the screens, it’s not just a case of fans coming up with theories as in your Star Trek examples but merely articulating what was actually shown, if more subtly than some would have preferred, on screen. I don’t think a theory is necessary to explain it, people remembering things that have happened to them in their past is hardly a stretch of occams razor after all. There’s probably quite a few reasons to object to the past Doctors taken out of time remembering everything the current one does, simply from what happens in those stories (1st Doctor not knowing the Master for instance). The Time Lords taking him out of his timeline earlier might have been made to work at a stretch but he’s not working for them at the start of the 5 Doctors (a story which incidentally implies the Time Lords have a very dim view of taking Time Lords out of their time streams, as does the 3 Doctors, unless it’s of the direst importance), and his later knowledge indicates he’s post-War Games. I guess I just think anything other than ‘it’s after those events’ is a surprising and unnnesscery conclusion to entertain.
Anyway, it’s hardly important, just mildly puzzling, what is important is how incredibly good your writing is, who cares about the dumb old show anyway
anyone with any taste would agree that only this strip is canon (a concept of dubious worth anyway when applied to fiction I’ve always thought).
Also, I wonder why it’s not Season 6.5 instead of 6b? You’d think with it coming between 6 and 7, 6.5 would have been a more obvious choice… hm.
And I noticed you side-stepped my comment about Cushing
and what about the CoTFD & Shalka Doctors then hm…
And re your last comments, I pretty sure that after this story you’ve got a guaranteed audience for any DW story you’d care to tell.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
*Nods* Good points, all.
Heheheeheh… my story canon? Not necessary. Accept it or not. It won’t (intentionally) contradict anything seen in the series anyway.
6.5 would probably be a better name for it. First time I heard of it was in the “Doctor Who DisContinuity Guide” where they refer to it as 6b.
Oh, Cushing, yes! Well, he’s human. From Earth. And his name is Doctor Who. Not the same character at all. Though he could be a parallel universe version of the 1st Doctor. I speculated on another forum somewhere that maybe he’s the Doctor in the universe where Rose ended up. At least, he was the first… and he regenerated into Trevor Martin (from “The 7 Keys to Doomsday”) and various other “apocryphal” Doctors. Perhaps even winding up as Rowan Atkinson.. and he’s currently a SHE in Rose’s world! Heheheh.. that’d take the story different places.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Ah, but he’s not necessarily human
he never explicitly says so in the movies, you’ve got me on his name, but then if I wanted to be a pedant… and I think my covers blown in that regard 
I could point out that we don’t know our Doctors name *isn’t* Doctor Who… dun dun duuuun
I like your tying together of the the parallel Doctors idea. I did have a similar idea about it occurring to Rose that she should try her cell phone in the Parallel universe, she must have the Tardis’s number listed, and it dialing that universes Tardis, with grouchy ol’ Shalka Doc in it, who would demand to know how she got the number, and then stuff would happen… of course… come to think of it, a female Doctor and Rose does have… unique possibilities…. hm…
October 11th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Can’t stand the Shalkra Doctor, to be honest with you. He looks like a badly drawn vampire. Tried to sit through a few episodes of that cartoon and just couldn’t bare it.
As for the Doctor’s name being Doctor Who… you’re right. We don’t know for SURE… except that he’s never used it. Except, of course, when WOTAN calls him that. But how would the computer know what his name was???
In the first Cushing movie “Doctor Who and the Daleks” he’s invented the TARDIS himself and lives with his Granddaughter and his Niece on Earth. Creepy. Anyway, it’s clear that he’s never flown the thing before he completes it at the beginning of the film, so we can assume he’s from Earth. (LIke the Cybermen from that alternate reality?)
October 11th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
I wasn’t overly fond of him myself (though his taste in Tardis interior design is a bit nicer than the current series), thought it would be funny though considering how great Rose thought the Doctor was if she ran into his miserable, grouchy, and rather less ‘fun’ Doctor. Could you imagine her ever having a crush on him?
Never did get why they drew him so Vampiric either, should have been more like Richard E Grants Scarlet Pimpernel I think.
Maybe the Cushing Doctor was raised on Earth with his Mother, instead of on Gallifrey with his Father? Uh oh there’s another can of worms
And I thought they were both his Granddaughters, funny there was no mention of their parents though.
>Except, of course, when WOTAN calls him that. But how would the computer know what his name was???
A ’60s mainframe computer that gains sentience and the ability to hypnotise people with beeping noises has already established itself as being able to achieve the unlikely
And it also worked out what Tardis stood for, and knew the Doctor was human years before the TVM came out on DVD 
October 12th, 2007 at 5:41 am
I thought Star Fleet just rotated the uniform colours occasionally to keep the other races guessing!
October 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Twoooooo!
Dangit, my second favourite Doctor knocked out again. He’s just immobilized, he’ll be fine.
… Right?? What’s all this talk of regeneration? DX
So many daleks… You have me caught between the edge of my seat and the back of my sofa.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Quote from dragon64:
So I wasn’t the only one hiding behind the sofa when the Daleks came on!
Yes, I remember that sofa very well; nubbly dark-purple upholstery with threads or red and black…. Of course, I was only 3 or 4 years old back then, and my ‘playful’ parents had just assured me that *they* were really Daleks in disguise…!
Way to give me a life-long complex, Mum and Dad!
October 12th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
all this talk of vampires has me wondering if we are going to see any of the ancient evil
October 12th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Is Two wearing Seven’s hat? Hehe.
Now I have to go back and read everything again…
Was this before or after Seven blew up Skaro?
October 12th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
OH, and I love the second panel how they have almost the exact same body language.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
-Was this before or after Seven blew up Skaro?-
Tricky question.
The 7th Doctor is lifted from a time *after* his experiences in “Rememberance of the Daleks”. So, *after*.
The story is mostly taking place in the 8th Doctor’s timeline. So also *after*.
However, the destruction of Skaro has to be an event in history, and therefore, since everyone, INCLUDING the Daleks, are time travellers of some skill or another… it could be *before* OR *after* depending on where and when they presently are.
Remember that in the introduction of the Fox film, the 8th Doctor’s narration states that “It was on the planet Skaro that my old enemy the Master was finally put on trial.”
And the 2nd Doctor pretty much wrecked all the Daleks that there ever were back in “The Evil of the Daleks”.
So all this could be before or after.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:17 am
Sorry, I should have worded it better. I meant for the Seventh Doctor, in his timeline, was it before or after he blew up Skaro. But I was also not thinking about it ~fourth dimensionally~ as Doc Brown would say, lol….or timey-wimey-wise as Ten would say.
October 14th, 2007 at 2:36 am
I’m with Gecks, love the pos-neg effect.
October 15th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
“In the first Cushing movie “Doctor Who and the Daleks” he’s invented the TARDIS himself and lives with his Granddaughter and his Niece on Earth.”
Maybe that was like in one of the most recent episodes where the Doctor uses the pocketwatch to turn himself into a human. When the Master did it he still retained his natural 20 intelligence roll, so why not? ^_^
October 15th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
“Maybe that was like in one of the most recent episodes where the Doctor uses the pocketwatch to turn himself into a human. When the Master did it he still retained his natural 20 intelligence roll, so why not? ^_^”
Ugh.
No.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:00 am
I for one loved the Richard Grant “Scream of the Shalka”9th Doctor. Though I may be a bit biased since Scream of the Shalka was my very first encounter with the Doctor. If you do start pulling in alternate universe Doctors due to some plot point (preferably not just for the sake of doing it) the Richard Grant 9th Doctor is at the top of my list for characters I’d want to see at the forefront.
And Human Nature/Family of Blood was pretty rad.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:25 am
=Richard Grant 9th Doctor is at the top of my list for characters I’d want to see at the forefront.=
Oh dear.
Well, I have to say, if I were going to bring in apocryphal Doctors, and if I were going to bring in a Richard E Grant incarnation… it would be the one from “The Curse of Fatal Death”… not the cartoon vampire.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
ahh yes the curse of fatal death…never did get to see that, saw bits of it before youtube stepped up to the base, downloaded it from the back of an adsl modem *ahem* didn’t work well….
October 16th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
OMG!!! Have only discovered this today (whilst looking for something else) I have thoroughly enjoyed your story and your artwork and cannot believe I have reached a cliffhanger! I’ll be waiting for the next “episode”…..
Absolutely fan-tas-tic!!
October 16th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
-ahh yes the curse of fatal death…never did get to see that,-
Hmm..
The good points were: Some clever time-travel jokes.
Price as the Master was EXCELLENT! I’d have cast him in the real show myself.
Actual Daleks that get to have some funny non-Dalekish dialogue.
We get to see a woman Doctor. I suppose that’s a good thing. Sort of. Actually, who cares?
The bad points:
Atkinson played the Doctor so straight that he was far more boring and less funny than any of the actual canon TV Doctors
The companion was neither gorgeous nor entertaining.
The other incarnations of the Doctor were funny for a joke, but I’d never want to see them carry the character for more than the few minutes each had.
Fart jokes. *sigh* Why fart jokes?
I guess what I’m saying is that I was largely disappointed. It’s not clever or good enough to be a REAL episode and it’s not funny enough to be a good parody. It got a lot of hype, but I’m guessing that was just because a)It’s got some big name comedians in it, and b)the Who fan community was starving for anything with a police box in it.
=Absolutely fan-tas-tic!!=
Thank you, Gallifrey! I’m glad you’re enjoying it! I plan to do lots more as soon as I get the chance. Soon! Promise!
October 18th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
IS Two wearing Seven’s hat?
Awesome, Rich. I anxiously await your next installment.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:09 am
Co’mon, hurry up, i want to see the next page!!!!!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:28 am
Sorry, been real tied up here with baby daughter stuff. WIll get to it soon, promise. Family comes first.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:55 pm
It’s understandable, Master-Blaster. But can ya blame us for not wanting to wait? You’re one groovie guy, with a hep story, that we all totaly dig. So catch ya on the filp side.
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Hehehe, and I feel guilty as hell, I really do! Heck, I’ve got about 4 or 5 pages mapped out in my head already. You’ll see it soon, I promise. Just can’t give you an exact estimate. Sometime in the next few days, I’m hoping.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:13 pm
I just found out that Peter Davison will be starring with David Tennant in a mini-episode named TIME CRASH!
Anyone else interested?
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 am
People have got to learn to be patient, sheesh. Rich, don’t feel bad. Wow, is this a newborn baby daughter? If so, then congrats! It’s perfectly understandable that you have a life that comes first. People can be so selfish sometimes (meaning people telling you to hurry up).
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 am
To Sean: Yeah! AWSOME! Saw the news on the Doctor Who web page. Terribly excited, me! WOOOT! Peter!
To Nikki: Oh, it’s okay, really! I’m just thrilled that people are enjoying it enough to get demanding. It’d be terribly sad if people didn’t care and said nothing when there was a huge gap like this.
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:36 pm
I… am trying terribly hard not to procrastinate on homework by using these as inking and coloring tablet practice.
Because these are FANTASTIC.
October 24th, 2007 at 4:22 am
I agree with UndeniablyNikki, let the poor man be. He’s got enough on his mind without you lot whingeing on about updates and all. Just be glad he updates period.
October 24th, 2007 at 6:15 am
build slowly, and the house will be sturdy and reliable, rush and surely the walls will crumble.
October 24th, 2007 at 7:32 am
Oh you guys!
I’m sure most of the orders to update were done with a smile. I really don’t mind, but thanks for being my bodyguards!
October 24th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
What do you expect? You’re as wonderful as a person, as you are talented as an artist. So while we put demands on your time, while in the same breath, defend the fact that your time is your own. Know that we are all greatful for both you, and your efforts.
So, hurry up, on the next page. Just remember to take time for the family.
October 24th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Heheh, yessir!
October 24th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
I have a two-year-old son, trust me I know about no free time…
October 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
I still want to know if 2 has 7’s hat…since NON ONE will answer my question…*grumble*
October 26th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Yes, that’s 7’s hat. Which, if I remember correctly was supposed to be in the show (but not actually) a redress of 5’s hat.
October 27th, 2007 at 4:46 am
Sylvester wore that hat to his audition for Doctor Who and they really liked it and I think he claims it’s part of the reason he was hired.
And Liz, I had the same question.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:59 am
EEP!
Sorry Liz! I didn’t realize it wasn’t rhetorical.
Yes. It is, as the good Cap says.
If you look at the previous page what’s going on at the beginning is that the two Doctors here (2 & 7) have actually been discussing their similarities. The 7th Doctor is playing the 2nd Doctor’s recorder and the 2nd Doctor is trying on the 7th Doctor’s hat and jacket (it’s subtle, but that was the intention).
At the beginning of this page, they swap jackets back, but (both being a touch absent-minded) have forgotten that the 2nd Doctor still has the hat on.
And yeah, the story I got was that it’s McCoy’s own hat that they just loved as a part of his costume. The umbrella was his idea too, apparently. Said that the other Doctors all had some kind of an object associated with them, and he grabbed an umbrella to use as a sort of catch-all prop. Went over well so they designed him a special one for the rest of his tenure.
October 27th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Hah, just caught up here (37-49), and that was fun! (Just, er, kinda forgot what was going on. It makes sense again!)
Glad I came back - I seriously needed a break from that research. Back to real life for me, and when the next page comes, so do I.
That was a really roundabout way of saying “thanks” for everthing, and hoping the new pages come quickly.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Im Writing My Own (Hope You Don’t Mind)
The 7 Doctors
4,5,6,7,8,9,10
1,2,3 Are Trapped In Time Eddy
Companions Forced To Tell What The Doctor Is Up To
Killer Monkeys
The Tardis Explodes
The 10th Doctor Falls In A Volcano
October 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
When Will We Find Out What Happened To The Companions (After The Rani Kidnapped Them)
October 29th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
That pretty good start can’t wait for the next one
October 30th, 2007 at 7:30 am
Hey Bob:
How can I *mind*, it’s not like I own the property or anything. Heheh… send a link when you get some of it online, We’d love to see it.
As for the companions… All In Good Time, My Friend, All In Good Time.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
*Big cheesy grin*
Thanks a bunch, Rich!
October 30th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Note for Bob- could yuo post a link to it (if it’s online)?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:36 am
Lisa, you no likey?
I never like the Doctor getting shot.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:21 am
On the discussion about the Cushing/movie incarnation, and otherwise a digression, I’ve always thought it would be fun to have a one-off adventure of Rose in the alternate universe, in which she meets that dimension’s version of the Doctor–which would be either the Cushing Doctor, or the TV Comic version of Doctor #1, complete with annoying grandchildren John and Jillian. Played strictly for laughs, in the “Case of Fatal Death” vein, of course. Hmm… Now there’s an idea for an out-of-cannon Children in Need special…
January 16th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Hee! I love how Two is wearing Seven’s hat!
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 am
My friend I was telling you about now says that
a. They’re serial killers
And now, B.
They’re…gay porn stars?
WHAT?!
I thought this would change his mind, but sadly, no.
~Levanta